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    Alias studio, help please....:)

    Hi all!
    I try "new" things every time I start AST and usally fail...
    I wonder if anyone could help me with a procedure for making the frame rails of a Ford 32 frame.

    (?) shall I bend a plane and then use curves on surface or perhaps extrude something.

    I know how to do this with blender but get stuck in AST

    I include the a picture of the frame
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    i dont' know about AST (i'm learning it myself) but i recognized the frame. i have it with measurements in a pdf file if you want it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodderworld View Post
    i dont' know about AST (i'm learning it myself) but i recognized the frame. i have it with measurements in a pdf file if you want it.

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    That would be very nice, thank you.

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    there you go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodderworld View Post
    there you go.

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    Thanx for the pdf. Now I just have to learn what to do next . I bought "Street rodder" today just to see/read more about hot rods. Hopefully one day...

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    i used to read it religiously (and rod and custom, street rod builder). i had a massive collection (but i moved so it's no longer with me). the magazine's gone downhill a bit. try it's website archive of features. i have a 1932 roadster i've been wanting to model my whole life since it's my dream car but my fear is that i won't do it justice. good luck with your deuce!

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    Hi!
    I have messed around and this is the result (see pic).
    1. Started to trace the outline of the main frame (don't know the name) from the side
    2. Then I created a plane in side view that covered the hole frame. from the top view I shaped the plane according to the outer shape of frame
    3. Then projected the curves from (1.) on to the plane

    I am quit happy with the result.

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    looks good. that seems like a reasonable way to do it. (i was thinking of creating a plane and moving it in the top view but hadn't decided how i'd go about it from there). the framerails look proper so long as you don't want the model to be stock. i say this because you boxed them in. original 1932 ford framerails didn't actually have panels all the way along the inside, only where there were crossmembers attached. however, many hot rodders and aftermarket frame makers would build them more or less like yours. also, you still need to find a way to make the relief on the outside of the framerail that makes the deuce frame so cool. that part i really have no idea how to do while maintaining continuity.

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    Hi! You know your hotrods I was thinking about the relief but it will perhaps not be visible...But as you said it's really cool and I don't know how to do it


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    lol, i wasted my adolescence and childhood reading magazines (if you read street rodder you'll notice it's a common theme). the relief on the outside is actually quite visible and one of those details that is easy to overlook but speaks volumes in terms of the ability of a 3d modeler. since you're not doing though it's not the most elegant (and probably effective) solution, couldn't you just project trim and use something like flange to make the inset. i don't know how it'd effect your continuity but it might work.

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    Hi!
    I have read and I will try something later tonite. The body I am thinking of is tunneled over the frame rails. But as you said i would look nice if I can make the relief.

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    Hi!
    rodderworld something like this? I am not shure about deapth (spelling?) or the curves of the relief

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    it's not that deep i think. if you're chanelling the body, it might not be visible but still... look at the first pic

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